{Women and men (II)}[19th November 1987]

[Redbook4:158-159][19871119:2312k]{Women and men (II)}[19^th November 1987]

19871119:2312

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I believe I my have covered some of this earlier*: just as women may be far more capable of self-sacrifice than men, being so placed on the Inner Circle; so on the outer circle, their influence on men (husbands or sons) may be strongly to drive them** round the outer circle.

This is depicted in Tarot VI, The Lover(s), where an older and a younger woman seek to persuade the young man in opposite directions: one to [Tarot] VII, the Chariot (or Career); and the other, according to the Circles, to XIV, Temperance, a young girl transferring fluid from one vessel to another.

This thought was prompted by contemplation of Christopher Logue's poem 'The Poet Mandelshtam's [sic] Debut',*** which I am delighted to have found (as an old Times cutting) recently: I have stuck it where I see it wherever I sit at the desk. Its theme of parents (and particularly, in this case, mother) putting pressure on a creative son to do (specifically) Law, is (as I think I have mentioned) a chillingly frequent one.****

*ref. [[Redbook4:147-148][19871020:2058f]{Women and Men (I)}[20th October 1987],] 147{-8}.

**[The men, presumably.]

***[See [Redbook2:129-132][19780829:2025d]{Publication [continued (5)]}[29^th August 1978]]

****[Possibly in part a reference to something I was told by a neighbour (quite possibly incorrectly) about the son of the former owner of [CH], & grandson of the late author and barrister [...]; but cf. [Redbook3:13-14][19860907:0612g]{Kielder Water [continued(4)]}[7^th September 1986].]

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