Thursday 30 June 2022

{A Dream: Of A Spoiled Ballot Paper [continued]}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:36][19901015:2120e]{A Dream: Of A Spoiled Ballot Paper [continued]}[15th October 1990]


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The dream* may have been related not only to my current interest in joining the Labour Party, but also to the sudden realisation of how the present Government’s enfranchisement of UK citizens resident overseas – including long-term residents overseas – increasing the electorate by as much (apparently) as 2½ million – may overturn the predictions of opinion polls based presumably on UK samples.


There was a nasty report recently that Conservative Party officers were suggesting that overseas supporters should register in marginal constituencies, irrespective of connection.



*[See last previous entry]



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Monday 27 June 2022

{A Dream: Of A Spoiled Ballot Paper}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:35-36][19901015:2120d]{A Dream: Of A Spoiled Ballot Paper}[15th October 1990]


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A curious dream this morning, ending abruptly at almost 6am – so obviously, that I wondered why the theme should have any significance – involved going to vote in what I thought were local elections; being enthusiastically met by the Labour canvasser, and telling him that I had been intending to join the Labour party and help;* (having been encouraged by him to go in?) inside the polling station – sitting at school desks – being handed a spoiled ballot paper, and complaining about it, this quite reasonably conducted (on my part) argument continuing for some time; finally persuading the polling officer to take the paper back uncompleted, but then after a while arguing again because he was now maintaining that I still had the paper (or was it that I had completed it? I forget: by this time I might have been about to wake up).** The implications of this last bit, of course were rather more serious.



*(which I have been)


**(There may have been more in this dream which I’[m] forgetting)



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{Dark and Light Clergy}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:35][19901015:2120c]{Dark and Light Clergy}[15th October 1990]


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Walking in Carmarthen today, and encountering – as one tends to there and in [Llan...] – * clergymen walking about: I remarked on** the curious fact that a high proportion – perhaps around 80-90% – of clergymen one encounters fall into one of two categories: either older, childlike and having a quality of whiteness or off-whiteness, even of near-light; and younger, determined to the point almost of the daemonic, and having a relatively much more noticeable quality of darkness. The former are frequently courteous and interested; the latter, generally bloody rude.



*(I’m watching News at Ten while writing this)

[Marginal note next to extensive crossings-out in the ms text]


**(& [W] confirmed)



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{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (2) [continued]}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:34][19901015:2120b]{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (2) [continued]}[15th October 1990]


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It is interesting to tabulate the number of lines of development* (a highly approximate indicator) at regular intervals:


Date bce

4096 cycle

(2048 cycle)

No. of lines


(or within 1/8th 4096 sector)**



(cancelling duplicates)


4096

C


0


3584

S~


0


3072

M~


1


2560

U~


1 / 2


2048

A~

(C)

6


1536

J~

(M~)

9-10


1024

G~

(A~)

12



(cG~-R~)

(J~)


(c.16) (Max point just after midpoint between [4096]G~ & R~)

512

R~

(G~)

11


0

C

(C)

c.“1”

Roman Empire, + invaders from the fringes

(This is a mildly tendentious conclusion!)


I would expect the 2048 year cycle to relate to specific areas: eg China, America, the Indus, the Middle East and the Aegean (the last two presumably also separate). Individual dynasties or periods within this would follow their own cycles, some more clearly related to 1/8 x 2028 (as for some of China and Greece, above),**** others – in more confused and ‘pluralistic’ parts of the World, such as Mesopotamia/Palestine – less so. I can’t see much more than this until I know more of their details.


Some of the miscellaneous middle Eastern kingdoms seem to fit within the 2048/8 pattern of arcs of cycle, but by no means all.



*[On the diagram at [Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990], presumably]


**[This sub-heading presumably refers to the fit of the lines in the 4th column to the 1/8th sector centred on each of the 512-year intervals enumerated in this 1st column]


****ref [[Redbook8:30-32][19901015:1017]{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1)}[15th October 1990]] 30-31


****ref [[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] 28-29



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Saturday 25 June 2022

{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (2)}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:33-34][19901015:2120]{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (2)}[15th October 1990]


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In retrospect, what begins to emerge from pp28-29** is a 4096 year period for general development (part of the 8192 year period from climatic change and the beginning of agriculture), which is also the major cycle for Ancient Egypt, whose dynastic periods fit this cycle with considerable regularity as 1/8th arcs of a cycle, appearing just before M~ which is approximately where one might expect political order to appear (C-M~).


At around the A~ point of this 4096 year cycle the other cultures appear: it would be neat if they appeared on the J~ side of the A~, rather than the U~ side, but there may be an oscillation effect (as for J[uglar] and K[ondratieff] economic cycles, etc.). They most noticeably appear very close in time to each other, with the probable exception of the Sumerians (and the possibility that I do not yet know enough earlier detail: I am relying solely on the outlines in the E[ncyclopaedia] B[ritannica] Propaedia, for this early analysis).



*[[Redbook8:32-33][19901015:1017d]{[4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued (4)]] … And Worldwide Rev’l’tion?}[15th October 1990]→]


**ref [[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] 28-29



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{Maccabees}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:33][19901015:1017e]{Maccabees}[15th October 1990]


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Part of the very recent fascination of the Maccabees,* which at first I found rather tedious, is that they give an on-the-ground view of the end of the period covered on pp 28-29 above,** near the centre of its action, from near-contemporary sources.



*[Books I and II, in the Christian Bible]


**ref [[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] 28-29



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Friday 24 June 2022

{[4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued (4)]] … And Worldwide Rev’l’tion?}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:32-33][19901015:1017d]{[4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued (4)]] … And Worldwide Rev’l’tion?}[15th October 1990]


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Add to this* the well-known phenomenon of the Axial Age,** c800-200bce, when Judaism, Mazdeism, Buddhism and Confucianism developed almost simultaneously in four ‘core areas’ of the World, laying the foundations for all later forms of ‘higher’ religion, – and it is hard to reject the possibility of an integrated cycle along the lines set out earlier*** (even if the borderline between culture and religion,**** particularly in those days, does seem rather blurred).



*[See last previous entry]


**E[ncyclopaedia] B[ritannica] 22:103

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***VII? [] … (late)


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Tuesday 21 June 2022

{[4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued (3)]] Worldwide Unification?...}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:32][19901015:1017c]{[4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued (3)]] ... & Worldwide Unification?...}[15th October 1990]


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I have not dealt in detail with the Jewish Biblical and the Roman cycles above,* because I have already covered them elsewhere;** and there is more detail of the Ancient Greek cycle elsewhere too.*** 


But perhaps the most astounding point to emerge from this chart is right at the end: that over exactly the same period when first in 530bce Cyrus, then **** Alexander, and finally the Romans, were working to bring about the cultural and political (relative) unification of the whole of their known World – ie c512bce-0, 4096S~-C and 2048G~-C; in the only other part of the World now known to have had an equivalent level of development, China, almost immediately (c221bce), the Ch’in dynasty did exactly the same thing.



*ref [[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] 28-29

[& see last two previous entries]


**VI...

& [S&C] Booklet


***[S&C] Booklet


****in c325[bce]



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{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued]}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:31-32][19901015:1017b]{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1) [continued]}[15th October 1990]


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I had hoped to unearth something interesting* in Mesopotamia,** but the situation there is confused.*** All one can really point to at this stage of ‘broad vision’ is a roughly 1000 (+300?) year political history**** which might sit happily within the fixed 2048 year cycle.


The justification for this is that cultural# history – which tends to predominate in the history of isolated or self-contained kingdoms#* – seems (and can be expected) to fill out its cycles towards the beginning and end, whereas political history – often all we have for competitive states such as those of Mesopotamia#** – frequently appears #*** late, eg around M~, or ¼[-]way into the cycle, and/or finishes early, eg around G~, ¼-cycle before the end.


For an example, compare the Biblical cycle of the Jews with their impact on history: if it wasn’t for their own records, which take us back nearly to c2048bce, they would appear in history around 1024bce; and it may be only a quirk of history,#**** in the form of Cyrus the Great’s generous treatment of subject peoples, which allows the Jews to feature as a state in that cycle beyond about 512bce.



*[cf last previous entry]


**{cf [[Redbook8:156-157][19901224:2322]{Mesopotamian Long Cycles}[24th December 1990],] 156}


***Nothing changes!


****(for Babylon and Assyria)


#eg that of the Greeks


#*eg China; Egypt


#**{? – see later []!}


#***[relatively]


#****Yes, we still have them



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{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1)}[15th October 1990]

[Redbook8:30-32][19901015:1017]{4,000 Years BC[E] – Commentary (1)}[15th October 1990]


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The diagram,* inevitably, had become over-full. But there are a few possibly interesting points.


Where a civilisation forms a single, reasonably ‘continuous’ thread across 2 or more millennia – which is the case only for the Egyptian, Chinese, and perhaps Greek cultures – there is a definite tendency for historians to identify and name periods in a way which displays shifts in context at[,] or within the permitted variation*** from[,] C points.


In the case of Egypt, if one joins the 2 ‘intermediate’ periods onto their predecessors in each case – which I think is permissible – then in the whole c3072 year period, only 1 out of the 7 points of change varies by more than 1/8th of its 512-year sub-period or 45o** sector, from the appropriate 512C degree – and that one varies by <1/4, and is 2500 years ago, at the limit of records.


China does not start off so well (c2205bce) but comes progressively closer: there seems to be a 256 year cycle, from 768bce, from which point each of the 4 named shifts is within[,] or almost within (5 years at most, where 1/8 = 32)[,] the limit.


The Greek cycle is not nearly so precise: but there is a suggestion of 3 consecutive cycles of c1024 years each, meeting and overlapping (and the first starting and the last finishing) at least partly in each case within periods which are within the 1/8th permitted variation (which for 1024 years = 128 years). # The early internal cultural divisions of the 3rd cycles, ie ‘Proto-geometric’ and ‘Geometric’, are not very regular; but the boundaries of the later Archaic and Classical, and the end of Hellenistic, are within 1/8th of the 256 year cycle, and the Classical/Helenistic boundary is greater than ¼#* by 3 years.



*ref [[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] 28-29 [– last previous entry but one]


**[Inserted in ms. Ms has 30o inserted, which must presumably be a mistake for 45o – a mistake which has been made before, more than once.]


***1/8th


****I think the (perhaps unsurprising) implication of this para [ie section / ts entry – the ms paragraphs having been split for the ts] is that the more stable a state is, the closer it will tend to stick to precise doubling cycle[s]; and, perhaps, the longer its ‘internal’ cycle periods will tend to be. {↓

But see later [] – short periods are difficult to identify before written records and accurate chronology}


#{This is not quite as it appears after more research/study: see amended chart ([[Redbook8:28-29][19901015:1710]{Four Thousand Years BC[E]}[15th October 1990],] p28-29)}


#*(64 years)



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